WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Steve P 9:10 Thu Dec 31
Re: Team v Liverpool
Adrián

Tomkins
Collins
Ogbonna
Cresswell

Noble
Kouyate

Antonio
Lanzini

Valencia

Denver Hammer 5:47 Thu Dec 31
Re: Team v Liverpool
I think Jenkinson at this stage is a bit too much of a liability, if Cressie is back then Tomkins has to start at RB. Collins has to keep his place and has been immense recently.
I do worry about Kouyaté and Noble, but as has been said on here many times having better players back brings the best out of Noble at least. Song for me needs more game time but I wouldn't start him.
My starting 11 for what it's worth

Adrián

Tomkins
Collins
Ogbonna
Cresswell

Noble
Obiang
Payet
Antonio
Lanzini

Valencia

If Payet doesn't start swap in Kouyate.

Impact subs - Carroll and Zarate plus Payet if he doesn't start.
Otherwise leave a sub for injuries or tiredness late on.

normannomates 1:04 Thu Dec 31
Re: Team v Liverpool
Kouyate needs benching.

Vexed 1:03 Thu Dec 31
Re: Team v Liverpool
I couldn't start Jenkinson, he looks such a massive liability. Stick with Tomkins at RB as we've barely conceded with him there.

daveyg 12:55 Thu Dec 31
Re: Team v Liverpool
If everyone is available that the clubs stated then we play the best team. Sorry but against Liverpool who will press we need our quickest defence playing.

Adrian
Jenkinson
Tomkins
Ogbonna
Cresswell

Obiang
Noble
Kouyate

Lanzini
Valencia
Antonio

subs
Randolph
Collins
Reid
Payet
Carroll
Zarate
Song

That's one hell of a bench.
Any slackers and they are off.

Give Carroll and Payet 30 mins each Song 15/20 mins

Mex Martillo 12:33 Thu Dec 31
Re: Team v Liverpool
Well Cresswell, Reid, Payet and Moses are in doubt but may be available, I hope Cresswell can start and I would then go for the team that did well in the 2nd half but swapping Tomkins for Cresswell.
Song was rubbish, he is skillful no doubt but does not deserve to start.

Adrian
Jenkinson Collins Ogybonna Cresswell
Kouyate Noble
Antonio Lanzini Valencia
Carrol

Vexed 12:12 Thu Dec 31
Re: Team v Liverpool
Bilic: "It’s only Diafra Sakho who we will be without for another four or five weeks. "

Denver Hammer 11:57 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
Cheers

Keep dreaming 7:17 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
Denver, i would guess at late february at best

Denver Hammer 7:02 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
When is Sakho back? any estimates?

NEVER SAY DIE 2:24 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
I dont think Bilic has started a player returning from injury yet who has missed 3-4 games or more so I'd expect all of Payet, Moses and Reid to be on the bench if they can even make that.

The team will really depend on whether he wants to try and flood the midfield again or get at them from the start with a similar team to which started the 2nd half against Southampton with 2 wide forwards and a central striker.

Sniper 2:20 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
I'd leave Carroll on the bench, valencia up top, lanzini and Antonio out wide and midfield three of noble kouyate and obiang

One thing I'm always uncertain with is how to ease players recovering from injury back into the team. Sometimes I think coming off the bench when the game is in full flow is harder for someone who's a little rusty than starting and easing into it. Guess it depends how much payet is capable of playing

franksfat&slow&wank 2:06 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
I agree no Song

Private Dancer 2:05 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
Gold0 saying that Moses and Reid could feature on Saturday.

, 1:40 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
I would not start Song because he has shown he is not up to pace yet. Bring him on later when other players, particularly the opposition, are tiring instead. Carroll needs to start too and Bilic can ring the changes to suit as the match progresses.

If Cresswell is still injured because we need an attacking outlet from full back I would play Jenkinson in his natural position ( where he actually provided a threat against Southampton ) with Tomkins on the left.

At least we are almost back to having viable options available.

the exile 1:30 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
Sir Alf - agree with all of that but not sure about Tomkins at lb - looked very unconvincing there against Southampton. I wonder if there is any reason why Kouyate can't play at lb - he is good defensively and more mobile than Tomkins - would be much better going forward, which Tomkins always seems reluctant to do. Either that or take a punt on Hendrie.

Keep dreaming 1:23 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
Fresh, just to make them start pissing their pants.
Imagine a 2-0 lead, and the sub Zarate with Payet?

Keep dreaming 1:22 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
Once again, whatever lineup, just make sure Carroll isn't starting. Sub him when 20mins left.

Sir Alf 12:21 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
Liverpool are good on the road and counter attacking like a lot of teams these days.

Starting Carroll will mean going for a route 1 type game from the start. I guess though that the absence of Skirtel might be a reason to line up that way?

We need to dominate midfield in the first half so will need the movement that Lanzini provides. But we also need better defensive cover and tracking back. That was our issue first half against southampton.

I would start with Obiang and place Song deeper where he has more time and space on the ball. Song struggled in the advanced role. He is better with being able to thread passes through from deep.

Assuming Cresswell, Reid, Payet and Moses are unable to start:

Adrian
Jenkinson Collins Oggy Tomkins
Song Obiang
Antonio Noble Lanzini
Valencia

Carroll to come on 2nd half. Payet to replace one of the midfielders 2nd half after 60 mins depending on how things stand.

Fresh 12:02 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
Don't know why the club are starting to publish tactics ahead of games the days . Payet will feature for 30 to 45 mins against Liverpool. Why let Klopp know that!

Btw agree that Carroll is more effective as a sub when he can batter tired central defenders.

NDT 12:00 Wed Dec 30
Re: Team v Liverpool
AKA ERNIE 7:17 Tue Dec 29
Re: Team v Liverpool
Roe has it spot on

Only a cunt would pick zarate after yesterday



team boaty 7:24 Tue Dec 29
Re: Team v Liverpool
Adrian
Jenkinson, Tomkins, Collins, Cresswell
Obiang, Noble
Lanzini, Payet, Zarate
Valencia

Randolph, Ogbonna, Hendrie, Kouyate, Song, Antonio, Carroll

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